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Tuesday, 30 September 2008

[PozHealth] High Red Blood Cells (Polycythemia)

My RBCs have been high for awhile and my physician advises if they've not decreased by my next blood work in November I will have to get a phlebotomy.  We decreased my Nandrolone to see if that was the cause but the high counts remain.  I'm going to try to stop smoking (again) shortly as when I quit for six months awhile back that did seem to reduce the RBCs.

Has anyone had this procedure?  Is there more to it than meets the eye?  Any weakness or side fx afterwards?  I understand about a liter of blood is removed perhaps bi-monthly.

Thanks, Gary

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Rép. : [PozHealth] Update on my surgery- An unpatient patient

Nelson, that's a real horror story, and I thank you for telling it.

It seems to me that you may have a sort of obligation to sue to teach the doctors a lesson, if you do in fact have a case.

Of course, you don't want the suit to cost you!

When you get back up and running, maybe we can think about you being the keynote speaker at the dedication of our NO-AIDS Task Force kitchen at the First Unitarian Universalist Church of New Orleans.  Of course, we have to get the job done first!

ROBERT DESMARAIS SULLIVAN of New Orleans

--- En date de : Mar, 30.9.08, Nelson <nelsonvergel@yahoo.com> a écrit :
De: Nelson <nelsonvergel@yahoo.com>
Objet: [PozHealth] Update on my surgery- An unpatient patient
À: PozHealth@yahoogroups.com
Date: mardi 30 Septembre 2008, 19 h 27



Gang

I had a laminectomy in the L5 R1 area of my lower back on Aug 12 to
treat pain I have down my left leg. The day after surgery I felt more
pain. Since them I had been getting worse and have been bed ridden
for the past 4 weeks since my pain would be unbearable if I stand for
more than 10 minutes

The reason I am updating you guys is to make you aware that even well
informed patients like me can fall prey to bad doctors.

After making a strong statement with the surgeon about my pain for
three weeks and the need for another MRI, he agreed and called me to
tell me that I had another disk problem after surgery and that he
wanted to operate on me again. Somehow my intuition told me that he
was wrong since I had not walked much at all after it was done. He
would not even send me to a pain management doctor since he said I
"needed to be patient."

I called, with the help of my primary care physician, 6 other
neurosurgeons to get a second opinion. None would take me since their
policy is not to see patients that have had surgeries with other
doctors withing the past 6 months. Finally, my doctor was able to get
me to see one.

I got there today and they scared the hell out of me when they said
that they also did not see patients who have been recently operated by
other doctors. I basically broke down and begged them. They finally
agreed and Dr Murphy, with 40 years of experience, showed up and
brighten my life.

The new doctor saw my MRI results in front of me and was shocked to
see a large area of infection pushing on my nerve. I am now to be
admitted the hospital to try to get the mass out, run cultures and get
IV treatment. He was surprised that my infection had not spread to
other areas of my spine and CNS.

We can never let our guards down. If your intuition is telling you
something, listen to it even if people may think you are over-
reacting.

I am hopeful that once this is treated and extracted my pain will
improve. The new doc said I may need another surgery if it does not.

Always get a second opinion for operations or anything that is not
just standard medical care.

I am thinking about suing for negligence when I get better. This
really scares me. I wonder what would have happened if I had followed
doctor's orders to be "more patient".

I am glad that I have a laptop that I can use while laying down. I
would go crazy if I did not have anything to do!

I may be in the hospital for a few days and will keep you updated.

Nelson



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Re: [PozHealth] Grouply message??

"Grouply is under serious scrutiny by YahooGroups list owners for a wide variety of security and list violation reasons.

It IS a problem that they require your YahooGroups ID and password - anyone who's been on the internet for more than three seconds knows not to give out that information to anyone who asks for it uninvited and to look askance at anyone who does. 

Many list owners are banning/removing people who access their lists through Grouply, and are working with the Grouply founders to fix the serious security problems that were discovered by list owners testing the system out of necessity because their lists' integrity was being compromised. The problems are legion, are being worked on (albeit with some reluctance in the case of some, and not addressed at all in the case of the inquiry as to whether it would be possible for Grouply to work WITHOUT the necessity of providing ID and password - resounding silence there), Various YahooGroups list owner/moderators' discussion lists, some of which have open archives if anyone not a member wants to get the real skinny on the problems that have surfaced and are being worked on."

On Sep 30, 2008, at 6:51 PM, Kevin wrote:

Has anyone gotten friend requests from people using Grouply from Yahoo?
I think it is spam, but wanted to check with you folks. This is the
email that I got, and I'm suspicious. Is Grouply a legit thing, or
just more spam????? 

We share the PozHealth group. I want to add you as a friend in Grouply
so you can see my profile with my pictures, my groups, and my favorite
group messages. 


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Re: [PozHealth] Re:Low Testosterone

yes ...do not mess with using testosterone and  your hormonal axis if you do not have symptoms of low testosterone.  Remember: "Low" is a relative term.  It compares you to many other patients. But your "low" may be good enough for you.
 
Regards,

Nelson Vergel
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Question.. If someone has low or low normal testosterone.. but every morning,  wakes up with an erection..does that mean that no treatment is needed??




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[PozHealth] Update on my surgery- An unpatient patient



Gang

I had a laminectomy in the L5 R1 area of my lower back on Aug 12 to
treat pain I have down my left leg. The day after surgery I felt more
pain. Since them I had been getting worse and have been bed ridden
for the past 4 weeks since my pain would be unbearable if I stand for
more than 10 minutes

The reason I am updating you guys is to make you aware that even well
informed patients like me can fall prey to bad doctors.

After making a strong statement with the surgeon about my pain for
three weeks and the need for another MRI, he agreed and called me to
tell me that I had another disk problem after surgery and that he
wanted to operate on me again. Somehow my intuition told me that he
was wrong since I had not walked much at all after it was done. He
would not even send me to a pain management doctor since he said I
"needed to be patient."

I called, with the help of my primary care physician, 6 other
neurosurgeons to get a second opinion. None would take me since their
policy is not to see patients that have had surgeries with other
doctors withing the past 6 months. Finally, my doctor was able to get
me to see one.

I got there today and they scared the hell out of me when they said
that they also did not see patients who have been recently operated by
other doctors. I basically broke down and begged them. They finally
agreed and Dr Murphy, with 40 years of experience, showed up and
brighten my life.

The new doctor saw my MRI results in front of me and was shocked to
see a large area of infection pushing on my nerve. I am now to be
admitted the hospital to try to get the mass out, run cultures and get
IV treatment. He was surprised that my infection had not spread to
other areas of my spine and CNS.

We can never let our guards down. If your intuition is telling you
something, listen to it even if people may think you are over-
reacting.

I am hopeful that once this is treated and extracted my pain will
improve. The new doc said I may need another surgery if it does not.

Always get a second opinion for operations or anything that is not
just standard medical care.

I am thinking about suing for negligence when I get better. This
really scares me. I wonder what would have happened if I had followed
doctor's orders to be "more patient".

I am glad that I have a laptop that I can use while laying down. I
would go crazy if I did not have anything to do!

I may be in the hospital for a few days and will keep you updated.

Nelson

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[PozHealth] Re:Low Testosterone

Question.. If someone has low or low normal testosterone.. but every morning,  wakes up with an erection..does that mean that no treatment is needed??




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Re: [Dokter Umum] Selamat Hari Raya Idul Fitri 1 Syawal 1429 H

Buat rekan2 milist yang merayakan:
kami menyampaikan Selamat Hari Raya Idul Fitri 1429 H,
Minal Aidin Wal faizin.

On 9/30/08, Ade An <adeahyad@ymail.com> wrote:
>
> Untuk rekan-rekan semua...
>
>
>
> Saya Mengucapkan;
>
> Selamat Hari Raya Idul Fitri
>
> 1 Syawal 1429H
>
> Minal Aidzin wal Faidzin
>
> Mohon maaf lahir dan bathin
>
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[PozHealth] Re:Silicone Fillers for the ButtCheecks $$$$$ ?

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[PozHealth] Grouply message??

Has anyone gotten friend requests from people using Grouply from Yahoo?
I think it is spam, but wanted to check with you folks. This is the
email that I got, and I'm suspicious. Is Grouply a legit thing, or
just more spam?????

We share the PozHealth group. I want to add you as a friend in Grouply
so you can see my profile with my pictures, my groups, and my favorite
group messages.

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[PozHealth] Krugman

I suggest that anyone questioning these deals look at Paul Krugman, an
liberal economist at the New York Times.

http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/09/30/where-will-the-money-come-from/

He has been calling the movement in this crisis for about two or three
years.

JB

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[PozHealth] Anal Cancer, screening for Anal Dysplasia - me too

I've read about anal cancer screening many times on this list. And I
have a POZ friend with advanced anal cancer that was detected very
late in the game (too late). So, I decided to be safe and not sorry,
and get screened for anal cancer.

My anal pap smear revealed a very small but "high grade" dysplacia
which may be pre-cancerous. The nurse commented that this should be
a wake-up call to all our HIV doctors....I'm undetectable, high CD4,
no apparent symptoms of any kind, and I had a pre-cancerous sample.
Luckily for me it was caught early and can probably be totally
eliminated, and cancer hopefully prevented.

Ask your doctor about anal pap smears to detect cancer. If he/she
doesn't know, keep looking. I'm sure glad I checked.

And I first read about it here on PozHealth.

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[PozHealth] Extended visit in Germany

I am thinking about renting in Berlin for about 4 months. I'm healthy
poz, on meds, and have BC/BS insurance. I would appreciate any insight
or experience that folks may have in terms of health care or
restrictions.
Thanks!
Will

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[PozHealth] Fw: change of Project Inform's Hotline Leadership

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From: "Jonathan Goldman" <jgoldman@projectinform.org>
Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 11:19:00 -0700
To: Jonathan Goldman<jgoldman@projectinform.org>
CC: Paul Dalton<pdalton@projectinform.org>; Dana Van Gorder<dvangorder@projectinform.org>
Subject: change of Project Inform's Hotline Leadership

Hello,

 

After two years of service, I will be stepping aside from the day-to-day hotline management responsibilities effective, October 18th. Our new Spanish bilingual manager, Alejandra Cano, who comes to us from W.O.R.L.D. starts Monday, November 10th. During the interim, Paul Dalton, Director of Treatment, Information and Advocacy will oversee the hotline services. I anticipate returning to my previous volunteer operator role for one shift per week in November. All emails addressed to me will be forwarded to Alejandra, although you may email her directly at any time- acano@projectinform.org.

 

We have also formally added in Outreach responsibilities to the position. So, if you are looking for P.I. presence at a local health fair or to conduct a Town Hall meeting on treatment updates in another city, she is the person to contact. If you have not signed up for our monthly PI E-newsletter, you may do so via our home page, upper left corner- www.projectinform.org. Also, PI Perspective #46 is now available on line for free downloading and printing-http://www.projectinform.org/info/pip/46/pip46.pdf . The Spanish version will be available later on in October. You may also subscribe online to receive a hard copy of PIP. Our publication, “Flu Season and Living with HIV” has been updated for 2008- http://www.projectinform.org/info/flu/flu.pdf .

 

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Re: [PozHealth] NATAP: Central Fat Causes Dementia

Jules,
Don't you think that central fat CAUSES dementia is not really correct, but that it's another addition to metabolic syndrome? I hope you don't think I'm nitpicking here but it really is a misstatement, no?
 
Writing to you gives me another opportunity to thank you for the great work you do and your contribution to the list.
 
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"In summary, these results contribute to a recent but growing body of evidence that a centralized distribution of adiposity is particularly dangerous, even for those who are not overweight, and that the brain may also be a target organ to the harmful effects of central obesity. If these results are replicated, our findings imply that central obesity may contribute to a degree of cognitive aging.....Even among those with a normal BMI, high central obesity was associated with an increased risk of dementia, although this bordered significance as a result of small numbersThe presence of central obesity in someone of a healthy body weight could be indicative of early insulin resistance or metabolic syndrome.....As shown in table 3, compared with those with a normal BMI and a low SAD (visceral fat), those with a normal BMI and high SAD were 89% more likely to have dementia, those overweight and with low SAD were 82% more likely, those overweight and with high SAD were 2.34 times more likely, those obese and with low SAD were 81% more likely, and those both obese and with high SAD had a 3.60-fold increased risk of dementia."


Central obesity and increased risk of dementia more than three decades later


NEUROLOGY Oct 2008;71:1057-1064


R. A. Whitmer, PhD, D. R. Gustafson, PhD, E. Barrett-Connor, MD, M. N. Haan, DrPH, E. P. Gunderson, PhD and K. Yaffe, MD


From Kaiser Permanente Division of Research (R.A.W., E.P.G.), Oakland, CA; Goteberg University (D.R.G.), Goteberg, Sweden; the Department of Family Medicine (E.B.-C.), University of California, La Jolla; the Department of Epidemiology (M.N.H.), University of Michigan, Ann Arbor; and the Departments of Psychiatry, Neurology and Epidemiology (K.Y.), University of California, San Francisco.Â



Abstract.


Background: Numerous reports show that a centralized distribution of adiposity is a more dangerous risk factor for cardiovascular disease and diabetes than total body obesity. No studies have evaluated whether the same pattern exists with dementia. The objective was to evaluate the association between midlife central obesity and risk of dementia three decades later.


Methods: A longitudinal analysis was conducted of 6,583 members of Kaiser Permanente of Northern California who had their sagittal abdominal diameter (SAD) measured in 1964 to 1973. Diagnoses of dementia were from medical records an average of 36 years later, January 1, 1994, to June 16, 2006. Cox proportional hazard models adjusted for age, sex, race, education, marital status, diabetes, hypertension, hyperlipidemia, stroke, heart disease, and medical utilization were conducted.


Results: A total of 1,049 participants (15.9%) were diagnosed with dementia. Compared with those in the lowest quintile of SAD, those in the highest had nearly a threefold increased risk of dementia (hazard ratio, 2.72; 95% CI, 2.33â€"3.33), and this was only mildly attenuated after adding body mass index (BMI) to the model (hazard ratio, 1.92; 95% CI, 1.58â€"2.35). Those with high SAD (>25 cm) and normal BMI had an increased risk (hazard ratio, 1.89; 95% CI, 0.98â€"3.81) vs those with low SAD (<25 cm) and normal BMI (18.5â€"24.9 kg/m2), whereas those both obese (BMI >30 kg/m2) and with high SAD had the highest risk of dementia (HR, 3.60; 95% CI, 2.85â€"4.55).


Conclusions: Central obesity in midlife increases risk of dementia independent of diabetes and cardiovascular comorbidities. Fifty percent of adults have central obesity; therefore, mechanisms linking central obesity to dementia need to be unveiled.


Abbreviations: AD = Alzheimer disease; BMI = body mass index; KP = Kaiser Permanente; MHC = Multiphasic Health Checkups; SAD = sagittal abdominal diameter.


It has been known for some time that a centralized distribution of fat is linked with numerous health risks. The abdominal distribution of body fat, referred to as central obesity, is an independent and more potent risk factor for type 2 diabetes, insulin resistance, coronary heart disease, stroke, and mortality than total body obesity.1â€"4 Indeed, individuals with a healthy weight but with a centralized distribution of adipose tissue have a much higher risk of disease and death. This may be attributable in part to the role of intraabdominal fat, also known as visceral adiposity, on metabolic abnormalities, which increases risk of diabet es and cardiovascular disease. Visceral fat is more metabolically active than subcutaneous fat and is thought to have a stronger influence on adipocytokine production and insulin resistance.5


Recent population-based research shows that obesity contributes to cognitive impairment.6,7 Obesity, as measured by body mass index (BMI), particularly in middle age, increases the risk of dementia, Alzheimer disease (AD), and neurodegenerative changes.8â€"12 However, it remains unknown whether distribution of adiposity plays a similar role in dementia risk as it does with cardiovascular disease and diabetes. Thus far, the potential link between central obesity and risk of dementia has not been reported.


As people age, there is a greater accumulation of fat in the midsection accompanied by loss of bone and muscle mass, a condition referred to as sarcopenia.13 Therefore, anthropometric measures of centralized fat distribution in late life as predictors of disease are somewhat problematic.13,14 Effects of midlife body composition on dementia risk are less biased by aging processes and can provide a more informative view of the long-term effects of central adiposity. The goal of the current study was to determine the role of midlife central obesity as measured by sagittal abdominal diameter (SAD) on risk of developing dementia assessed more than three decades later. We also sought to evaluate if the effect of central obesity on dementia risk was independent of total body obesity (as assessed by BMI), varied by weight status, and was diffe rent from any risk associated with peripheral obesity (as measured by thigh diameter).


DISCUSSION

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As is the case for diabetes and cardiovascular disease, central obesity is also a risk factor for dementia. In this population-based diverse cohort of middle-aged adults followed for an average of 36 years, central obesity was associated with an increased risk of dementia independent of demographics, diabetes, cardiovascular comorbidities, and BMI. For those with normal, overweight, or obese BMI, central obesity increased the risk of dementia. Those overweight or obese but without central obesity had an 80% increase in dementia risk; those both overweight or obese and with central obesity had 2.34-fold and 3.60-fold increase in dementia risk, respectively. Even among those with a normal BMI, high central obesity was associated with an increased risk of dementia, although this bordered significance as a result of small numbers. The presence of central obesity in someone of a healthy body weight could be indicative of early insulin resistance or metabolic syndrome. Those with existence of both conditions had a risk that was triple that of those conditions. Peripheral obesity was not associated with dementia. To our knowledge, this is the first study to report an independent association of midlife central obesity with an incr eased risk of dementia.


Prior work has shown that central obesity is a risk factor for stroke and diabetes, independent of total body obesity, as measured by BMI.3,4,23 Central obesity is not a problem limited to those who are overweight or obese; indeed, reports have found that among those not overweight, a centralized distribution of adiposity is associated with an increased risk of insulin resistance, diabetes, and coronary artery disease.4,13 These results are consistent with prior work comparing the effects of BMI and central obesity on risk of diabetes and cardiovascular disease. A prior study found that women with both central obesity and in the highest quintile of BMI had a 29 times greater risk of diabetes vs those in the lowest quintile of BMI and central obesity. Our findings suggest the same pattern for de mentia risk. Our observation that thigh adiposity did not increase the risk of dementia is consistent with other research showing that peripheral adiposity is not associated with an increased risk of disease and may possibly protect against diabetes.24,25 We did not find a protective effect of peripheral adiposity on dementia risk, but this may be because thigh diameter is not the most sensitive marker of peripheral adiposity.


There are several potential biologic mechanisms whereby central obesity could increase risk of dementia. The most obvious is through increased risk of stroke, diabetes, and cardiovascular disease because these conditions increase the risk of dementia and are associated with obesity.26â€"29 Nonetheless, adjustment for both mid- and late-life exposure to these conditions did not attenuate the effect of central adiposity on dementia risk. It is possible that insulin resistance could be a confounder in the association between midlife central obesity and dementia; studies have shown it to be a consequence of central obesity and to be associated with cognitive decline and dementia. We did not have a measure of insulin resistance and could not adjust for this marker. However, those with insulin resistance in midlife would be highly likely to develop type 2 diabetes, which we could ac count for.


There may be something intrinsic to the condition of central adiposity that increases risk of dementia. The central adiposity measurement was obtained in midlife and may reflect a lifetime exposure to an altered metabolic and inflammatory state induced by high visceral adiposity. There are several toxic effects of visceral adipose, which is a metabolically active endocrine tissue secreting several inflammatory cytokines and hormones.30â€"32 There are documented differences in endocrine secretion of adiponectin, interleukin-6, and leptin between abdominal visceral fat and subcutaneous fat. Some of these adipocytokines such as leptin and interleukin-6 are associated with greater cognitive decline.33 /SPAN>Work also suggests that leptin crosses the bloodâ€"brain barrier and may play a role in neurodegeneration.34,35 Leptin is also thought to be involved in deposition of amyloid beta 42, the main ingredient in AD-associated plaques in the brain.36


Pathologic studies suggest that AD-associated changes in the brain may start in young to middle adulthood,37 and a recent study found that obese middle-aged adults have decreased brain volume compared with those of normal weight,38 whereas another study found that high central obesity in elderly adults was associated with decreased hippocampal brain volume and greater brain atrophy.39 These findings imply that the harmful effects of central obesity on the brain may start long before clinical signs of dementia appear and are not limited only to those whom are overweight.


Strengths of the study include a well-characterized, ethnically diverse cohort with central, peripheral, and total obesity measures; equal access to medical care; and a long follow-up period. Because the population is all continual members of the same health plan, lifetime exposure to common comorbidities and medical utilization was well evaluated. Moreover, because the cohort was between 40 and 45 years old at the time of risk factor assessment, subclinical dementia at baseline is highly unlikely.


This study also has limitations. No information on dieting, nutrition, or cognitive function was collected, although obese persons have different nutritional and exercise habits than nonobese persons.40 Many studies suggest that several different nutritional factors are associated with dementia41â€"43 and that physical activity in old age lowers the risk of dementia. As a result of body composition imaging technology (CT or MRI) not being available in the 1960s, we were not able to directly distinguish the effects of visceral vs subcutaneous adiposity, but several studies have shown that SAD is more highly correlated with visceral fat than with subcutaneous fat and is a stronger predictor of mortality, diabetes, and insulin resistance than BMI or waist circumference, particularly when evaluating a middle-aged population.44â€"47 The MHC examination did not specify a Latino category; therefore, we do not know whom among the race categories is Latino, although this group has a high prevalence of central adiposity. Finally, our study only included those who were still alive in 1994, the onset of dementia ascertainment; therefore, we only could examine the association between central obesity and dementia among those who made it to old age (mean age of 69 years in 1994).


In summary, these results contribute to a recent but growing body of evidence that a centralized distribution of adiposity is particularly dangerous, even for those who are not overweight, and that the brain may also be a target organ to the harmful effects of central obesity. If these results are replicated, our findings imply that central obesity may contribute to a degree of cognitive aging.


RESULTS (see tables below or in attachment or when posted to NATAP website)


Comparisons of midlife demographics (age, education, and race) and comorbidities (diabetes, hypertension, and hyperlipidemia), between those with (n = 6,583) and without (n = 2,081) SAD or thigh diameter data, revealed no significant differences (p > 0.05). Characteristics of the study population by midlife central obesity are presented in table 1. Those with central obesity were more likely to be nonwhite; to have less than a high school level of education; to smoke cigarettes; to have hyperlipidemia, hypertension, or diabetes; and to be either overweight or obese as determined from World Health Organization BMI categories. Those with central obesity were also more likely to have late-life heart disease and dementia.


As shown in table 2, from January 1, 1994, through June 16, 2006, 1,049 participants were diagnosed with dementia (table 2). Age-adjusted incidence rates of dementia by quintiles of SAD showed an increase in risk of dementia across quintiles with a steep increase in incidence among those in the fifth quintile (324 events per 10,000 person-years vs 214 events for those in the first quintile). There was no significant increase in dementia incidence by quintile of thigh diameter.


In fully adjusted multivariate models shown in table 2, SAD increased risk of dementia in a dose-dependent fashion. Those in the second quintile were 20% more likely to have dementia, those in the third quintile were 49% more likely to have dementia, those in the fourth quintile were 67% more likely to have dementia, whereas those in the fifth quintile were 2.72 times more likely to develop dementia vs those in the first quintile of SAD. Additional inclusion of BMI to the model modestly attenuated the effect of the fourth and fifth quintile to a hazard ratio of 1.35 and 1.98, respectively.


The effect of SAD remained significant after addition of BMI to the final model (figure). After additional adjustment for BMI, those in the fifth quintile of SAD had an almost twofold increased risk of dementia (hazard ratio, 1.92; 95% CI, 1.58â€"2.35). Because the effect of high SAD (≥25 cm) on dementia risk significantly varied across BMI categories (p value for BMI x SAD interaction term p < 0.0008), models were conducted calculating the risk of dementia by high (≥25 cm) and low (<25 cm) SAD status across BMI categories. As shown in table 3, compared with those with a normal BMI and a low SAD, those with a normal BMI and high SAD were 89% more likely to have dementia, those overweight and with low SAD were 82% more likely, those overweight and with high SAD were 2.34 times more likely, those obese and with low SAD were 81% more l ikely, and those both obese and with high SAD had a 3.60-fold increased risk of dementia.


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Table 2 Age-adjusted incidence rates of dementia by quintile of sagittal abdominal diameter and thigh diameter, and Cox proportional hazard model of quintiles of sagittal abdominal diameter, thigh diameter, and risk of dementia

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METHODS

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Study population. We studied 6,583 continual members of the Kaiser Permanente (KP) Medical Care Program of Northern California who participated in voluntary periodic Multiphasic Health Checkups (MHC) in San Francisco and Oakland, CA, between 1964 and 1973 when they were ages 40 to 45 years. The MHC examination was performed as part of routine medical care between the years 1964 to 1973 and included standardized anthropometric measurements. To determine the effect of midlife risk factors only, we identified participants who were still alive and members of KP when electronic medical diagnoses of dementia were available in 1994 (N = 8,664). After excluding those who were missing SAD, thigh diameter, or BMI data (2,081), our analytic cohort was comprised of 6,583 elders.


KP of Northern California is a nonprofit, group practice health-integrated delivery system that covers more than one third of the population in the geographic areas served. KP members are representative of the sociodemographics of the local population.15


Data collection. Determinants of midlife characteristics and comorbidity. At the MHC, participants were interviewed and information was collected on demographics, lifestyle, and medical history, including questions on medical conditions, medication use, and health behaviors.16 Many participants completed the MHC examination more than once; however, we used information from the baseline examination in the current study. Education was categorized as level of schooling, including grade school, high school, trade school, or college. Race categories in the MHC included self-reported white, black, or Asian. Smoking was classified as never or ever smoked.


The MHC also included a comprehensive clinical examination (for more details, see references 16â€"19). Fasting blood was drawn for total serum cholesterol analysis and glucose. Cholesterol was determined with an Auto-Analyzer (Technicon Co., White Plains, NY) from 1964 to 1968 with an Autochemist (AGA Corp., Stockholm, Sweden) from 1969 to 1972 and with an Auto-Analyzer (model SMA-12; Technicon, Co.) in 1973.18,20 Hypertension was defined as self-report of physician-diagnosed hypertension or use of antihypertensive medication or systolic blood pressure ≥140 mm Hg or diastolic blood pressure ≥90 mm Hg. High cholesterol was defined as total serum cholesterol ≥240 mg/dL. Diabetes was defined by self-report of physician-diagnosed diabetes, use of insulin or oral hypoglycemic agents, a fasting glucose (last food eaten in ≥8 hours) of ≥126 mg/dL, or nonfasting (last food eaten in ≤4 hours) glucose of ≥200 mg/dL.


Central and peripheral obesity. Trained technicians performed all anthropometric measures according to the Nutritional Academy of Anthropometry Standards. The SAD, the distance between the back surface and the top of the abdomen at the level of the iliac crest, was measured after gentle expiration with the patient in a standing position using an anthropometer. High SAD was categorized as ≥25 cm vs those <25 cm based on prior work on clinical cut points for central obesity.21 Sagittal thigh diameter also was measured using an anthropometer evaluating the distance between the back of the thigh directly under the left subgluteal fold of the buttock and the front of the thigh. Height and weight were measured using a balance beam scale calibrated to the nearest 8 ounces and a tape measure with standard positioning.17 BMI was calculated as weight in kilograms divided by height in meters squared.


Comorbidities after midlife. Comorbidities after midlife were collected using the KP electronic records of inpatient and outpatient diagnoses and disease registries. We collected information on the following diagnoses from 1994 through the end of the study: hyperlipidemia, hypertension, ischemic heart disease, stroke, and diabetes. Mortality information was available through the end of 2004 using the California Automated Mortality Linkage System, which has a sensitivity of 0.97 compared with the National Death Index.22 Mortality information from 2004 to 2006 was achieved through a matching linkage system incorporating social security number, name, and address. We examined frequency of number of medical visits during the dementia ascertainment period. The numbers of medical visits per person per year were divided by person-years to achi eve a medical utilization rate.


Dementia. We ascertained dementia status from January 1, 1994, to June 16, 2006 when the participants were 73 to 87 years of age. Dementia diagnoses were obtained from medical records at KP hospitals and clinics in visits to primary care, neurology, and psychiatry departments using International Classification of Diseases, 9th Revision codes and excluding HIV and alcohol-associated dementia. Dementia diagnoses included the following: dementia, AD, vascular dementia, and dementia not otherwise specified, International Classification of Diseases codes 290.0, 290.1, 290.2, 290.3, 290.4, 331.0.


Statistical analysis. All analyses were performed using SAS version 8.0 (SAS Institute, Cary, NC). {chi}2 analyses were conducted to determine if there were any significant differences between those with SAD and thigh diameter data vs those without these measurements. Because SAD and thigh diameter differed significantly by sex (p < 0.01), we calculated sex-specific quintiles. We compared clinical and demographic characteristics by midlife central obesity status (high vs low SAD) using {chi}2 and log rank tests. We estimated age-adjusted incidence rates of dementia by quintiles of SAD and thigh diameter to examine incidence of dementia using the entire cohort as the standard population. Cox proportional hazard models were used to identify independent predictors of risk of dementia using age as a time scale model. Age was calculated as age at the time of MHC examination (age in midlife) to age at the time of dementia ascertainment or the earliest of the following events: age at time of death, age at end of KP membership (as defined by a gap in membership of 3 months or greater), or age at the end of the study (June 16, 2006).


Three quintile models were generated: 1) a model adjusted for age only, as time scale; 2) a model adjusted for age (as time scale), education, race, sex, marital status, medical utilization, and time-dependent comorbidities (hyperlipidemia, diabetes, hypertension, ischemic heart disease, and stroke); and 3) a model additionally adjusted for BMI using standard World Health Organization categories of obesity (≥30 kg/m2), overweight (25â€"29.9 kg/m2), underweight (<18.5 kg/m2), and normal (18.5â€"24.9 kg/m2) to assess the effects of central adiposity independent of overall level of fatness. The midlife and late-life diabetes, hypertension, and hyperlipidemia variables were combined to create time-dependent covariates so that adjustment for length of time of having the disease could be controlled for in the models.


To understand if the effect of SAG on dementia was consistent across weight, we constructed models designed to ascertain if the effect of SAD on risk of dementia was consistent in each World Health Organization BMI stratum. For these models, those with both a normal BMI (18.5â€"24.9 kg/m2) and with a healthy SAD (SAD <25 cm) were the reference group. These models were fully adjusted for age (as time scale), education, race, sex, martial status, and comorbidities (hyperlipidemia, diabetes, hypertension, ischemic heart disease, and stroke).


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[PozHealth] NATAP: Central Fat Causes Dementia


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Subject:NATAP: Central Fat Causes Dementia
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"In summary, these results contribute to a recent but growing body of evidence that a centralized distribution of adiposity is particularly dangerous, even for those who are not overweight, and that the brain may also be a target organ to the harmful effects of central obesity. If these results are replicated, our findings imply that central obesity may contribute to a degree of cognitive aging.....Even among those with a normal BMI, high central obesity was associated with an increased risk of dementia, although this bordered significance as a result of small numbersThe presence of central obesity in someone of a healthy body weight could be indicative of early insulin resistance or metabolic syndrome.....As shown in table 3, compared with those with a normal BMI and a low SAD (visceral fat), those with a normal BMI and high SAD were 89% more likely to have dementia, those overweight and with low SAD were 82% more likely, those overweight and with high SAD were 2.34 times more likely, those obese and with low SAD were 81% more likely, and those both obese and with high SAD had a 3.60-fold increased risk of dementia."


Central obesity and increased risk of dementia more than three decades later


NEUROLOGY Oct 2008;71:1057-1064


R. A. Whitmer, PhD, D. R. Gustafson, PhD, E. Barrett-Connor, MD, M. N. Haan, DrPH, E. P. Gunderson, PhD and K. Yaffe, MD


From Kaiser Permanente Division of Research (R.A.W., E.P.G.), Oakland, CA; Goteberg University (D.R.G.), Goteberg, Sweden; the Department of Family Medicine (E.B.-C.), University of California, La Jolla; the Department of Epidemiology (M.N.H.), University of Michigan, Ann Arbor; and the Departments of Psychiatry, Neurology and Epidemiology (K.Y.), University of California, San Francisco. 



Abstract.


Background: Numerous reports show that a centralized distribution of adiposity is a more dangerous risk factor for cardiovascular disease and diabetes than total body obesity. No studies have evaluated whether the same pattern exists with dementia. The objective was to evaluate the association between midlife central obesity and risk of dementia three decades later.


Methods: A longitudinal analysis was conducted of 6,583 members of Kaiser Permanente of Northern California who had their sagittal abdominal diameter (SAD) measured in 1964 to 1973. Diagnoses of dementia were from medical records an average of 36 years later, January 1, 1994, to June 16, 2006. Cox proportional hazard models adjusted for age, sex, race, education, marital status, diabetes, hypertension, hyperlipidemia, stroke, heart disease, and medical utilization were conducted.


Results: A total of 1,049 participants (15.9%) were diagnosed with dementia. Compared with those in the lowest quintile of SAD, those in the highest had nearly a threefold increased risk of dementia (hazard ratio, 2.72; 95% CI, 2.33–3.33), and this was only mildly attenuated after adding body mass index (BMI) to the model (hazard ratio, 1.92; 95% CI, 1.58–2.35). Those with high SAD (>25 cm) and normal BMI had an increased risk (hazard ratio, 1.89; 95% CI, 0.98–3.81) vs those with low SAD (<25 cm) and normal BMI (18.5–24.9 kg/m2), whereas those both obese (BMI >30 kg/m2) and with high SAD had the highest risk of dementia (HR, 3.60; 95% CI, 2.85–4.55).


Conclusions: Central obesity in midlife increases risk of dementia independent of diabetes and cardiovascular comorbidities. Fifty percent of adults have central obesity; therefore, mechanisms linking central obesity to dementia need to be unveiled.


Abbreviations: AD = Alzheimer disease; BMI = body mass index; KP = Kaiser Permanente; MHC = Multiphasic Health Checkups; SAD = sagittal abdominal diameter.


It has been known for some time that a centralized distribution of fat is linked with numerous health risks. The abdominal distribution of body fat, referred to as central obesity, is an independent and more potent risk factor for type 2 diabetes, insulin resistance, coronary heart disease, stroke, and mortality than total body obesity.1–4 Indeed, individuals with a healthy weight but with a centralized distribution of adipose tissue have a much higher risk of disease and death. This may be attributable in part to the role of intraabdominal fat, also known as visceral adiposity, on metabolic abnormalities, which increases risk of diabetes and cardiovascular disease. Visceral fat is more metabolically active than subcutaneous fat and is thought to have a stronger influence on adipocytokine production and insulin resistance.5


Recent population-based research shows that obesity contributes to cognitive impairment.6,7 Obesity, as measured by body mass index (BMI), particularly in middle age, increases the risk of dementia, Alzheimer disease (AD), and neurodegenerative changes.8–12 However, it remains unknown whether distribution of adiposity plays a similar role in dementia risk as it does with cardiovascular disease and diabetes. Thus far, the potential link between central obesity and risk of dementia has not been reported.


As people age, there is a greater accumulation of fat in the midsection accompanied by loss of bone and muscle mass, a condition referred to as sarcopenia.13 Therefore, anthropometric measures of centralized fat distribution in late life as predictors of disease are somewhat problematic.13,14 Effects of midlife body composition on dementia risk are less biased by aging processes and can provide a more informative view of the long-term effects of central adiposity. The goal of the current study was to determine the role of midlife central obesity as measured by sagittal abdominal diameter (SAD) on risk of developing dementia assessed more than three decades later. We also sought to evaluate if the effect of central obesity on dementia risk was independent of total body obesity (as assessed by BMI), varied by weight status, and was different from any risk associated with peripheral obesity (as measured by thigh diameter).


DISCUSSION

 

As is the case for diabetes and cardiovascular disease, central obesity is also a risk factor for dementia. In this population-based diverse cohort of middle-aged adults followed for an average of 36 years, central obesity was associated with an increased risk of dementia independent of demographics, diabetes, cardiovascular comorbidities, and BMI. For those with normal, overweight, or obese BMI, central obesity increased the risk of dementia. Those overweight or obese but without central obesity had an 80% increase in dementia risk; those both overweight or obese and with central obesity had 2.34-fold and 3.60-fold increase in dementia risk, respectively. Even among those with a normal BMI, high central obesity was associated with an increased risk of dementia, although this bordered significance as a result of small numbers. The presence of central obesity in someone of a healthy body weight could be indicative of early insulin resistance or metabolic syndrome. Those with existence of both conditions had a risk that was triple that of those conditions. Peripheral obesity was not associated with dementia. To our knowledge, this is the first study to report an independent association of midlife central obesity with an increased risk of dementia.


Prior work has shown that central obesity is a risk factor for stroke and diabetes, independent of total body obesity, as measured by BMI.3,4,23 Central obesity is not a problem limited to those who are overweight or obese; indeed, reports have found that among those not overweight, a centralized distribution of adiposity is associated with an increased risk of insulin resistance, diabetes, and coronary artery disease.4,13 These results are consistent with prior work comparing the effects of BMI and central obesity on risk of diabetes and cardiovascular disease. A prior study found that women with both central obesity and in the highest quintile of BMI had a 29 times greater risk of diabetes vs those in the lowest quintile of BMI and central obesity. Our findings suggest the same pattern for dementia risk. Our observation that thigh adiposity did not increase the risk of dementia is consistent with other research showing that peripheral adiposity is not associated with an increased risk of disease and may possibly protect against diabetes.24,25 We did not find a protective effect of peripheral adiposity on dementia risk, but this may be because thigh diameter is not the most sensitive marker of peripheral adiposity.


There are several potential biologic mechanisms whereby central obesity could increase risk of dementia. The most obvious is through increased risk of stroke, diabetes, and cardiovascular disease because these conditions increase the risk of dementia and are associated with obesity.26–29 Nonetheless, adjustment for both mid- and late-life exposure to these conditions did not attenuate the effect of central adiposity on dementia risk. It is possible that insulin resistance could be a confounder in the association between midlife central obesity and dementia; studies have shown it to be a consequence of central obesity and to be associated with cognitive decline and dementia. We did not have a measure of insulin resistance and could not adjust for this marker. However, those with insulin resistance in midlife would be highly likely to develop type 2 diabetes, which we could account for.


There may be something intrinsic to the condition of central adiposity that increases risk of dementia. The central adiposity measurement was obtained in midlife and may reflect a lifetime exposure to an altered metabolic and inflammatory state induced by high visceral adiposity. There are several toxic effects of visceral adipose, which is a metabolically active endocrine tissue secreting several inflammatory cytokines and hormones.30–32 There are documented differences in endocrine secretion of adiponectin, interleukin-6, and leptin between abdominal visceral fat and subcutaneous fat. Some of these adipocytokines such as leptin and interleukin-6 are associated with greater cognitive decline.33 Work also suggests that leptin crosses the blood–brain barrier and may play a role in neurodegeneration.34,35 Leptin is also thought to be involved in deposition of amyloid beta 42, the main ingredient in AD-associated plaques in the brain.36


Pathologic studies suggest that AD-associated changes in the brain may start in young to middle adulthood,37 and a recent study found that obese middle-aged adults have decreased brain volume compared with those of normal weight,38 whereas another study found that high central obesity in elderly adults was associated with decreased hippocampal brain volume and greater brain atrophy.39 These findings imply that the harmful effects of central obesity on the brain may start long before clinical signs of dementia appear and are not limited only to those whom are overweight.


Strengths of the study include a well-characterized, ethnically diverse cohort with central, peripheral, and total obesity measures; equal access to medical care; and a long follow-up period. Because the population is all continual members of the same health plan, lifetime exposure to common comorbidities and medical utilization was well evaluated. Moreover, because the cohort was between 40 and 45 years old at the time of risk factor assessment, subclinical dementia at baseline is highly unlikely.


This study also has limitations. No information on dieting, nutrition, or cognitive function was collected, although obese persons have different nutritional and exercise habits than nonobese persons.40 Many studies suggest that several different nutritional factors are associated with dementia41–43 and that physical activity in old age lowers the risk of dementia. As a result of body composition imaging technology (CT or MRI) not being available in the 1960s, we were not able to directly distinguish the effects of visceral vs subcutaneous adiposity, but several studies have shown that SAD is more highly correlated with visceral fat than with subcutaneous fat and is a stronger predictor of mortality, diabetes, and insulin resistance than BMI or waist circumference, particularly when evaluating a middle-aged population.44–47 The MHC examination did not specify a Latino category; therefore, we do not know whom among the race categories is Latino, although this group has a high prevalence of central adiposity. Finally, our study only included those who were still alive in 1994, the onset of dementia ascertainment; therefore, we only could examine the association between central obesity and dementia among those who made it to old age (mean age of 69 years in 1994).


In summary, these results contribute to a recent but growing body of evidence that a centralized distribution of adiposity is particularly dangerous, even for those who are not overweight, and that the brain may also be a target organ to the harmful effects of central obesity. If these results are replicated, our findings imply that central obesity may contribute to a degree of cognitive aging.


RESULTS (see tables below or in attachment or when posted to NATAP website)


Comparisons of midlife demographics (age, education, and race) and comorbidities (diabetes, hypertension, and hyperlipidemia), between those with (n = 6,583) and without (n = 2,081) SAD or thigh diameter data, revealed no significant differences (p > 0.05). Characteristics of the study population by midlife central obesity are presented in table 1. Those with central obesity were more likely to be nonwhite; to have less than a high school level of education; to smoke cigarettes; to have hyperlipidemia, hypertension, or diabetes; and to be either overweight or obese as determined from World Health Organization BMI categories. Those with central obesity were also more likely to have late-life heart disease and dementia.


As shown in table 2, from January 1, 1994, through June 16, 2006, 1,049 participants were diagnosed with dementia (table 2). Age-adjusted incidence rates of dementia by quintiles of SAD showed an increase in risk of dementia across quintiles with a steep increase in incidence among those in the fifth quintile (324 events per 10,000 person-years vs 214 events for those in the first quintile). There was no significant increase in dementia incidence by quintile of thigh diameter.


In fully adjusted multivariate models shown in table 2, SAD increased risk of dementia in a dose-dependent fashion. Those in the second quintile were 20% more likely to have dementia, those in the third quintile were 49% more likely to have dementia, those in the fourth quintile were 67% more likely to have dementia, whereas those in the fifth quintile were 2.72 times more likely to develop dementia vs those in the first quintile of SAD. Additional inclusion of BMI to the model modestly attenuated the effect of the fourth and fifth quintile to a hazard ratio of 1.35 and 1.98, respectively.


The effect of SAD remained significant after addition of BMI to the final model (figure). After additional adjustment for BMI, those in the fifth quintile of SAD had an almost twofold increased risk of dementia (hazard ratio, 1.92; 95% CI, 1.58–2.35). Because the effect of high SAD (≥25 cm) on dementia risk significantly varied across BMI categories (p value for BMI x SAD interaction term p < 0.0008), models were conducted calculating the risk of dementia by high (≥25 cm) and low (<25 cm) SAD status across BMI categories. As shown in table 3, compared with those with a normal BMI and a low SAD, those with a normal BMI and high SAD were 89% more likely to have dementia, those overweight and with low SAD were 82% more likely, those overweight and with high SAD were 2.34 times more likely, those obese and with low SAD were 81% more likely, and those both obese and with high SAD had a 3.60-fold increased risk of dementia.


 

Table 2 Age-adjusted incidence rates of dementia by quintile of sagittal abdominal diameter and thigh diameter, and Cox proportional hazard model of quintiles of sagittal abdominal diameter, thigh diameter, and risk of dementia

 

METHODS

 

Study population. We studied 6,583 continual members of the Kaiser Permanente (KP) Medical Care Program of Northern California who participated in voluntary periodic Multiphasic Health Checkups (MHC) in San Francisco and Oakland, CA, between 1964 and 1973 when they were ages 40 to 45 years. The MHC examination was performed as part of routine medical care between the years 1964 to 1973 and included standardized anthropometric measurements. To determine the effect of midlife risk factors only, we identified participants who were still alive and members of KP when electronic medical diagnoses of dementia were available in 1994 (N = 8,664). After excluding those who were missing SAD, thigh diameter, or BMI data (2,081), our analytic cohort was comprised of 6,583 elders.


KP of Northern California is a nonprofit, group practice health-integrated delivery system that covers more than one third of the population in the geographic areas served. KP members are representative of the sociodemographics of the local population.15


Data collection. Determinants of midlife characteristics and comorbidity. At the MHC, participants were interviewed and information was collected on demographics, lifestyle, and medical history, including questions on medical conditions, medication use, and health behaviors.16 Many participants completed the MHC examination more than once; however, we used information from the baseline examination in the current study. Education was categorized as level of schooling, including grade school, high school, trade school, or college. Race categories in the MHC included self-reported white, black, or Asian. Smoking was classified as never or ever smoked.


The MHC also included a comprehensive clinical examination (for more details, see references 16–19). Fasting blood was drawn for total serum cholesterol analysis and glucose. Cholesterol was determined with an Auto-Analyzer (Technicon Co., White Plains, NY) from 1964 to 1968 with an Autochemist (AGA Corp., Stockholm, Sweden) from 1969 to 1972 and with an Auto-Analyzer (model SMA-12; Technicon, Co.) in 1973.18,20 Hypertension was defined as self-report of physician-diagnosed hypertension or use of antihypertensive medication or systolic blood pressure ≥140 mm Hg or diastolic blood pressure ≥90 mm Hg. High cholesterol was defined as total serum cholesterol ≥240 mg/dL. Diabetes was defined by self-report of physician-diagnosed diabetes, use of insulin or oral hypoglycemic agents, a fasting glucose (last food eaten in ≥8 hours) of ≥126 mg/dL, or nonfasting (last food eaten in ≤4 hours) glucose of ≥200 mg/dL.


Central and peripheral obesity. Trained technicians performed all anthropometric measures according to the Nutritional Academy of Anthropometry Standards. The SAD, the distance between the back surface and the top of the abdomen at the level of the iliac crest, was measured after gentle expiration with the patient in a standing position using an anthropometer. High SAD was categorized as ≥25 cm vs those <25 cm based on prior work on clinical cut points for central obesity.21 Sagittal thigh diameter also was measured using an anthropometer evaluating the distance between the back of the thigh directly under the left subgluteal fold of the buttock and the front of the thigh. Height and weight were measured using a balance beam scale calibrated to the nearest 8 ounces and a tape measure with standard positioning.17 BMI was calculated as weight in kilograms divided by height in meters squared.


Comorbidities after midlife. Comorbidities after midlife were collected using the KP electronic records of inpatient and outpatient diagnoses and disease registries. We collected information on the following diagnoses from 1994 through the end of the study: hyperlipidemia, hypertension, ischemic heart disease, stroke, and diabetes. Mortality information was available through the end of 2004 using the California Automated Mortality Linkage System, which has a sensitivity of 0.97 compared with the National Death Index.22 Mortality information from 2004 to 2006 was achieved through a matching linkage system incorporating social security number, name, and address. We examined frequency of number of medical visits during the dementia ascertainment period. The numbers of medical visits per person per year were divided by person-years to achieve a medical utilization rate.


Dementia. We ascertained dementia status from January 1, 1994, to June 16, 2006 when the participants were 73 to 87 years of age. Dementia diagnoses were obtained from medical records at KP hospitals and clinics in visits to primary care, neurology, and psychiatry departments using International Classification of Diseases, 9th Revision codes and excluding HIV and alcohol-associated dementia. Dementia diagnoses included the following: dementia, AD, vascular dementia, and dementia not otherwise specified, International Classification of Diseases codes 290.0, 290.1, 290.2, 290.3, 290.4, 331.0.


Statistical analysis. All analyses were performed using SAS version 8.0 (SAS Institute, Cary, NC). {chi}2 analyses were conducted to determine if there were any significant differences between those with SAD and thigh diameter data vs those without these measurements. Because SAD and thigh diameter differed significantly by sex (p < 0.01), we calculated sex-specific quintiles. We compared clinical and demographic characteristics by midlife central obesity status (high vs low SAD) using {chi}2 and log rank tests. We estimated age-adjusted incidence rates of dementia by quintiles of SAD and thigh diameter to examine incidence of dementia using the entire cohort as the standard population. Cox proportional hazard models were used to identify independent predictors of risk of dementia using age as a time scale model. Age was calculated as age at the time of MHC examination (age in midlife) to age at the time of dementia ascertainment or the earliest of the following events: age at time of death, age at end of KP membership (as defined by a gap in membership of 3 months or greater), or age at the end of the study (June 16, 2006).


Three quintile models were generated: 1) a model adjusted for age only, as time scale; 2) a model adjusted for age (as time scale), education, race, sex, marital status, medical utilization, and time-dependent comorbidities (hyperlipidemia, diabetes, hypertension, ischemic heart disease, and stroke); and 3) a model additionally adjusted for BMI using standard World Health Organization categories of obesity (≥30 kg/m2), overweight (25–29.9 kg/m2), underweight (<18.5 kg/m2), and normal (18.5–24.9 kg/m2) to assess the effects of central adiposity independent of overall level of fatness. The midlife and late-life diabetes, hypertension, and hyperlipidemia variables were combined to create time-dependent covariates so that adjustment for length of time of having the disease could be controlled for in the models.


To understand if the effect of SAG on dementia was consistent across weight, we constructed models designed to ascertain if the effect of SAD on risk of dementia was consistent in each World Health Organization BMI stratum. For these models, those with both a normal BMI (18.5–24.9 kg/m2) and with a healthy SAD (SAD <25 cm) were the reference group. These models were fully adjusted for age (as time scale), education, race, sex, martial status, and comorbidities (hyperlipidemia, diabetes, hypertension, ischemic heart disease, and stroke).


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Horney Goat Weed nor Levitra never really did much for me...50 MG
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[PozHealth] Fw: Last chance to sign on! Fight the criminalization of people livingwith HIV

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From: "Coco Jervis, CHAMP" <champ@champnetwork.org>
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Subject: Last chance to sign on! Fight the criminalization of people living with HIV

Dear Nelson,

I wanted to send a quick reminder that Tuesday, September 30 is the deadline to sign on to this community letter, which calls on the CDC to adopt a communications strategy to combat dangerously misleading information concerning the transmission and communicability of HIV.

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Join us in calling on the CDC to adopt a communications strategy to combat dangerously misleading information concerning the transmission and communicability of HIV.

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This summer people living with HIV in the U.S. have faced a wave of criminal charges for activities with extremely limited or no risk of HIV transmission:
  • May 2008: An HIV positive man in Texas is charged with using his "infection as a weapon" after biting a police officer during a scuffle with a security guard.
  • May 2008: Another HIV positive man in Texas is charged with assault with a "deadly weapon" after spitting at a police officer and receives a 35-year sentence.
  • July 2008: An HIV positive woman in Georgia is sentenced for 3 years in prison for spitting in another woman's face.
  • August 2008: A New Hampshire man of unknown HIV status is forced to pay a fee for an HIV test of a police officer he is accused of spitting on.
The media has picked up these stories, framing the accused as maliciously trying to spread the disease, even in cases where transmission is impossible. This spreads misinformation, threatening to undo decades of community education efforts.

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) have long said that saliva, tears, or sweat do not present an appreciable risk of HIV transmission, but severe sentences have been upheld for people living with HIV in the U.S.

It's time for the CDC to support the work of advocates in this fight against the senseless criminalization of HIV positive people in the U.S.

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[PozHealth] +Re:Getting off Fuzeon

I came off Fuzeon 4 months ago after 5 years of use. In replacement I went on Isentress. Prior to the switch VL undetectable, Ts 450, and 16% and I’ve been stable for a number of years. Tested positive in ’94.

 

Other meds, which have been unchanged for 5 years are Aptivus (tipranavir), epivir, ziagen (abacavir), and norvir.

 

First labs after switch Ts 550, VL undetectable, and 23%.  I am most excited about the % increase, but also had 10 sessions of acupuncture during this 3 month period. I’ve stopped the acupuncture, so I’ll have a better sense with my next labs if that contributed. Haven’t noticed any negative side effects.

 

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[PozHealth] Re:Silikone 1000 microdroplet procedure

My partner and I were one of the first in our area to use this for Lipo. It has lasted almost four years and still looks fabulous!

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[PozHealth] Testosterone levels and HDL

For years, taking NAC [N-acetylcysteine] for glutathione and immune support has been important.

Here is Droge , the German researcher who did pioneering work in cysteine support of people with HIV,  
mentioning how low cysteine contributes to low HDL. This is very interesting ! It means running low in antioxidant compounds could explain why so many people have low HDL levels.

Charlie Smigelski RD

: Free Radic Biol Med. 2003 Nov 15;35(10):1286-92.

Cholesterol levels linked to abnormal plasma thiol concentrations and thiol/disulfide redox status in hyperlipidemic subjects.

Department of Anatomy and Cell Biology III, Heidelberg University, Heidelberg, Germany. Ralf.Kinscherf@urz.uni-heidelberg.de
Treatment of hyperlipidemic patients with the thiol compound N-acetylcysteine (NAC) was previously shown to cause a significant dose-related increase in the high-density lipoprotein (HDL)-cholesterol serum level, suggestin g the possibility that its disease-related decrease may result from a diminished thiol concentration and/or thiol/disulfide redox status (REDST) in the plasma. We therefore investigated plasma thiol levels and REDST in normo-/hyperlipidemic subjects with and without coronary heart disease (CHD). The thiol level, REDST, and amino acid concentrations in the plasma and intracellular REDST of peripheral blood mononuclear cells (PBMC) have been determined in 62 normo- and hyperlipidemic subjects. Thirty-three of these subjects underwent coronary angiography, because of clinical symptoms of CHD. All groups of hyperlipidemic patients under test and those normolipidemic individuals with documented coronary stenoses showed a marked decrease in plasma thiol concentrations, plasma and intracellular REDST of PBMCs, and a marked increase in plasma taurine levels. Individual plasma thiol concentrations and plasma REDST were strongly negatively correlated with the serum LDL-cholesterol and positively correlated with the serum HDL-cholesterol level. Together with the earlier report about the effect of NAC on the HDL-cholesterol serum level, our findings suggest strongly that lower HDL-cholesterol serum levels may result from a decrease in plasma thiol level and/or REDST possibly through an excessive cysteine catabolism into taurine.



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Subject: [PozHealth] Testosterone levels

 
Hi all
 
Got my Testosterone levels back: 1675   range: 270-1070ng/di
 
Free Test:  73.9
 
Sex horm. bind Glob: 26   rang: 13-71
 
PSA  .8  range: .0-4.0
 
HDL 26  optimal 40 plus
 
cholesterol: 102
 
LDL 64
 
triglycerides: 61  optimal 150 or less
 
My questions are: my doc thinks the high testosterone level is lowering my HDL?
I doubt it is the reason, any thoughts? refrences?
 
I use 1x week 200mg  test & 200 nandrolone for many years now. I do not want to lower the dose. When I have my energy is the worst.
 
I requested  we recheck it saying I just did my shot at the time of testing. The doc agreed. How long staying off for testosterone to go down? Does nandrolone affect testosterone levels?
 
Just got off three years Fuzeon, Aptivus, Norvir, Truvada, Sustiva, Famcyclovir..a rough ride, yet the only three years I've been undetectable since starting meds 1996.
T cells hovered between 110-180 in the three years.
 
Since June: Intelence, Istentress, Truvada, Fancyclovir and Tcells 180 and no viral load, great news, thank you Nelson for your help.
 
To those on this list I've been blessed to know  Michael, Fred, George and to all I am grateful.
 
 
One Love
 
 

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[PozHealth] Re: Root Canals

There are a couple of ways to access Ryan White funded dental services.  The first and most popular is utilizing funding via Part F of the Ryan White Treatment Modernization Act of 2006 (formerly known as the Ryan White CARE Act)  This funding is designated for dental care provided in University settings. This is the Dental Reimbursement Program.   If you are near a University with a Dental School, check to see if they participate. .chances are they do.  Here's where you can find a list of this programs:

http://hab.hrsa.gov/treatmentmodernization/dental.htm



The second way, for those who are not near a dental school, is to check with your local AIDS Service Organization (ASO) to see if they provide funding for you to see a dentist.  This type of funding varies greatly from State to State and even among ASOs, so you may have to advocate to get the funding. 

A great resource for all HIV funded Ryan White programs is:

http://hab.hrsa.gov/aboutus.htm


It is so important that we all realize that the reauthorization was only for 3 years, in hopes of a change in the political affiliation of the current administration.  Everyone has to start getting involved if we ever hope to have this Act refunded.  If you don't get involved, speak up, vote, advocate. .then don't start crying when there is no money for any services and we are all literally on our own.

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[PozHealth] Serostim -

I've been using Serostim on and off for sometime now. My belly has been completely removed and my abs are ripped. I have also gained back the weight that I lost, which was the
main reason I started Serostim. But my problem is that it removed some fat from my face or
at least I think it was the cause. Will the fat come back if I discontinue Serostim?

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[PozHealth] Re:Silikone 1000 microdroplet procedure

"I am currently receiving Silikone 1000 microdroplets from Dr. Hal Brody 
in Atlanta for facial lypodystrophy. I am pleased with Dr. Brody, but 
the cost of getting from the Tampa Bay area, where I live, to Atlanta 
for treatments has become very expensive. Does anyone know of any 
doctors in the Tampa Bay Area including south florida down to Naples 
who are qualified to administer this procedure? 

Also, has anyone done any research on this procedure versus another 
procdedure that I have heard about called PMMA (?)"


Dr. Brody is among the most experienced, but that travel is a bitch.  I'd consult dermatologists known to be gay friendly, and ask directly.  Even medical-grade silicone is sort of semi-clandestine.

I would probably not want to mix PMMA with silicone, so stick with what you are doing.

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[PozHealth] Re:Getting off Fuzeon

"I have been Poz since 1994. I have been on Fuzeon for 3 years and I 
asked my doc to get me off the shots. My VL is undetectable and my t 
cell count is 400. He wants me to go on Darunavir, Ritonavir, 
Intelence and Isentress. Does anyone else take these meds and any 
insight of what I have to look forward to.
Thanks for your help."


Dale,

It's hard to give advice to someone who seems to be an "experienced" patient, as you probably have multiple resistance mutations.    The proposed combination has several brand-new agents, so that is good.

I don't know what else you are on, now, but other than losing the welts and needles, I think you'll not notice much.

JB

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[PozHealth] Re: Androgel-- high triglycerides

"My doctor has placed me on Tricor and we will see how I am in one month
and go from there. On my doctors office's advice I am changing my diet
and expanding my exercise commitment. I am a bit worried because I am a
vegetarian and have a low fat diet already and do work out fairly
regularly. I am suspecting one of the components in my Atripla may be
the culprit.
I like Atripla and hope to not have to change regimen but I guess we
have a wait and see situation here."


Be patient, as long as you are paying attention, you will be able to control it.   Exercise is a great help, and Omega-3s may be of help, too.


"I am also concerned about a dull pain and possible swelling in my
abdomen (under my rib cage on the left side) that I think I should get
checked out (I have not had a physical exam - just a call after lipid
panel) but I don't want to overreact and I don't know if that is where
my liver or pancreas are located though I could "Google" it I suppose -
I just hate getting myself worked up over stuff like this that usually
isn't anything and is just in my head."


Bring it to your doctor's attention.   If you've noticed it, and it's a concern, it's not a problem to mention it.

JB

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[PozHealth] Re:Silicone Fillers for the ButtCheecks $$$$$ ?

"As I posted on friday. I'm tring to get advice or comments on 
Fillers in the ButtCheecks.
My main consern are the side effects. If there are cases of 
rejection ?
How long do they last ? Are they so heavy that can actually 
waigth it down with the gravity ?
Is it safe to seat on them long time ? DO they lose their shape
over the time ? Deform the butt ?
What are PMMA ? Or the Silicone Droplets better ?
DO THeY GET LUMPY ? Are they noticible if you are naked ?
Has anyone heard of Dr. Harry Abrames or Abrams ?"


Brian,

I have had PMMA, and am delighted with the results.   The appearance is perfectly natural, and nobody has noticed anything amiss.   The injections are so deep that no nodules are detectable, even if they may be present deeper in the tissues.

I would be skeptical about silicone in the butt.  While I am aware that some have had good results, I would be concerned that the cost with medical grade silicone would be prohibitive.  Also, there is a significant risk of migration given the stress of sitting on the implant, and the dependent location of the buttocks.

JB

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Re: [PozHealth] 24 hours post-procedure facial and gluteal restoration with P...

 
Thanks for your input!
 
Your swelling will go down in three days and you will be shocked that your butt will not look as good as now. But in a few weeks, you see remarkable growth of tissue and collagen that makes your butt look great again.
 
I tell people to work out and to do light gluteal work after a week or so. It seemed to help me for sure
 
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In a message dated 9/29/2008 12:05:44 P.M. Central Daylight Time, dcdwntwn@gmail.com writes:
I know people often ask for information and opinions on lipo
restoration on this board. I made the plan with Casavantes and am now
24+ hours post procedure and relaxing in San Diego. I'm happy to share
my thoughts with people with interest. I don't have any comments on
any other doctors or other types of treatment and don't want to get
into that debate. I can only comment on what my experience has been so
far and will continue to track my progress over the next 8 weeks as
the PMMA does its work. So, if you'd like to hear how things are going
and see photos of my progression, I'm happy to share. In brief, things
have been great so far and have gone as I expected based upon my
research. I'm swollen today, but was able to spend the day outside
enjoying San Diego - It's my first trip here. I gave myself 4 days
post-procedure(just in case) and will be enjoying a harbor cruise tmw
(I will be able to stand...) and the zoo on Tuesday (I will be able to
stand and walk..and stand on the bus getting there...). Keep moving
and don't plan on sitting much for a few days, if you get your butt
done. :)

I know that what I wanted most when researching was first-hand
experience (and I'm thankful to those that shared with me), so I'd
like to share mine with those that have interest and are seriously
looking into treating the results of lipoatrophy with PMMA. Right now
I can tell you about what the first 36 hours are like, in my experience.

dcdwntwn@gmail.com
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Re: [PozHealth] Root Canals

ASO is AIDS Service Organizations
 
To see if you qualify for AIDS Drug Assistance Program in your estate , call the main HIV agency in your city
 
Here is a list
 
Every state has different requirement when it comes to how much money you can make.  They use the poverty level and multiply it by a factor. California and New York are the best and estates in the south are the worst.
 
You can find out more about ADAPs here
 
Many Ryan White funded programs include eye care, dental care, and nutritoonal services. In Houston, we have exercise and supplements included also.
 
 
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In a message dated 9/29/2008 12:04:33 P.M. Central Daylight Time, george310541@yahoo.com writes:
Hi Travis,
 
I'm confused on, what is an ASO....
 
And how would anyone find
this Ryan White Funding program....
 
I live in Los Angeles, but this is the
first time, that I have heard about
any dental program...
 
I have three or more teeth, that need
work, before they completely fall out...
 
Thank you in advance for your help...
 
George



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From: Travis32824 <travis32824@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [PozHealth] Root Canals
To: pozhealth@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, September 27, 2008, 8:05 PM

For those of you (like me) that can't afford this, and have Medicare A-B as I do, and do not have any private insurance, Ryan White Funding will pay for dental work.
I have an appt next week for either a major filling or a crown. My filling fell out some time ago, which was about 1/2 my tooth, so I have a gaping hole there that HURTS at times. Usually, as my ASO said, the initial appt is approved and the dentist provides a treatment plan then does the work.. In my case, since I have lost 1/2 a tooth, he's performing the re-filling or crown and will do x rays, then come up with a total treatment plan for me to be submitted for approval by my ASO. So far I've been approved for $500 just for the one tooth, but more dental work will follow I'm sure.
Travis
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--- On Sat, 9/27/08, Gary <Gary85710@cox.net> wrote:
From: Gary <Gary85710@cox.net>
Subject: [PozHealth] Root Canals
To: PozHealth@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, September 27, 2008, 2:17 PM

I had a root canal performed the other day and thought I would share my experience with anyone for whom this procedure has been or will be recommended.  Throughout the years, I had heard all sorts of unpleasant and intimidating information about this procedure.
The procedure is usually performed by an endodontist.  In my case it involved #15, an upper-left molar.  Imaging is done at the time to identify locations of nerves within the tooth.  After local anesthetic, tubular holes are drilled into the nerves and the nerves are stripped out and replaced with filler.  Then a temporary filling is installed (same as for a cavity) which will be replaced by the regular dentist with a permanent filling anytime within four weeks or so.  The only pain I experienced were the injections of anesthetic.  The procedure does take awhile--forty- five minutes in my case.  
In the aftermath, pain can vary but thus far for me has been minimal.  I was given an Oxycodone Rx.  The cost for me was $1050, but reduced by what my insurance paid.
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[PozHealth] Low Testosterone

My testosterone count just came back at 281.  Apparently, they've been low for some time now, but I hadn't really paid any attention, and my doctor hadn't mentioned anything.  I'm 28 years old.  This has me concerned.  It's still in the normal range, but barely, and very low for my age.  My doctor seems to think I should avoid taking replacement yet, since I'm asymptomatic -- no fatigue, still have some sex drive, etc..  I was wondering -- what other health risks am I at by not supplementing at this point?  Isn't low testosterone related to metabolic syndrome?  I'm a pretty active guy, hike a lot, cycle to work a couple times a week, yet my body does feel like it's aging rapidly.  I have a much higher accumulation of belly fat than two years ago, though my diet and exercise patterns are largely unchanged.  My doc seems to say it's just that late 20s slower metabolism change, but I'm unconvinced.  Certainly, HIV isn't the cause of all our ails in life, but this time around, I'm definitely thinking the medication may finally be taking it's toll on my body (it's been 5 years I've been on them -- Norvir, Reyetaz, and Truvada.)  My doctor is relatively new and inexperienced, so I've been contemplating switching anyway.

Anyone have any thoughts?

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Re: [PozHealth] Silikone 1000 microdroplet procedure

Try this doctor in Miami
Barry I. Resnik, MD. Resnik - Dermatology Aventura, FL (telephone 305-692-8998) www.resderm.com
 
 
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In a message dated 9/29/2008 12:05:02 P.M. Central Daylight Time, Mrtag1@aol.com writes:
I am currently receiving Silikone 1000 microdroplets from Dr. Hal Brody
in Atlanta for facial lypodystrophy. I am pleased with Dr. Brody, but
the cost of getting from the Tampa Bay area, where I live, to Atlanta
for treatments has become very expensive. Does anyone know of any
doctors in the Tampa Bay Area including south florida down to Naples
who are qualified to administer this procedure?

Also, has anyone done any research on this procedure versus another
procdedure that I have heard about called PMMA (?)

I would appreciate any guidance or help anyone can send my way.

Thanks!


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Re: [PozHealth] Testosterone levels and HDL

Androgens like testosterone or anabolic steroids can decrease HDL by around 20%
 
Your testosterone level is too high. Decrease the dose until your total testosterone is between 500 and 1000 nanograms per deciliter
 
HIV can also decrease HDL by as much as 50%. HIV meds can increase HDL by 20%, but this is usually not enough to normalize HDL, so most of us have low HDL even with successful HAART.
 
Try niacin at 200 mg a day building up slowly to 1000 to 1500 mg a day to see if your HDL increases at all. Take a baby aspirin 30 min before you take Niacin.
 
We have discussed niacin a lot in this list. These are previous posts
 
 
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In a message dated 9/29/2008 12:05:32 P.M. Central Daylight Time, rockovach@comcast.net writes:
 
Hi all
 
Got my Testosterone levels back: 1675   range: 270-1070ng/di
 
Free Test:  73.9
 
Sex horm. bind Glob: 26   rang: 13-71
 
PSA  .8  range: .0-4.0
 
HDL 26  optimal 40 plus
 
cholesterol: 102
 
LDL 64
 
triglycerides: 61  optimal 150 or less
 
My questions are: my doc thinks the high testosterone level is lowering my HDL?
I doubt it is the reason, any thoughts? refrences?
 
I use 1x week 200mg  test & 200 nandrolone for many years now. I do not want to lower the dose. When I have my energy is the worst.
 
I requested  we recheck it saying I just did my shot at the time of testing. The doc agreed. How long staying off for testosterone to go down? Does nandrolone affect testosterone levels?
 
Just got off three years Fuzeon, Aptivus, Norvir, Truvada, Sustiva, Famcyclovir..a rough ride, yet the only three years I've been undetectable since starting meds 1996.
T cells hovered between 110-180 in the three years.
 
Since June: Intelence, Istentress, Truvada, Fancyclovir and Tcells 180 and no viral load, great news, thank you Nelson for your help.
 
To those on this list I've been blessed to know  Michael, Fred, George and to all I am grateful.
 
 
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